Things I Want

"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale)
09/13/2016 at 19:49 • Filed to: gto, dream, parts list

I really want to make my GTO faster and more reliable. That means:

1. Monster Clutch Package (850 hp rated) $1100

2. Maverick Man Coilover Kit $800

3. Hinson 1-piece Driveshaft (800hp, 160mph, 7,800rpm limit) $580

4. Driveshaft Shop 1400hp Axles $1000

5. LSA Heads $1300

6. Full LSA Intake w/ SC (ebay) $3000

7. LSA Part Kit $3000

8. Additional Funds for Issues $1000

9. BRM Handling package $1000

10. Bushing kit $300

11. Baer 6 pot Brake kit $2,100

12. Center Gauge Pod $500

Total: $15,680

Update: Get rid of 2-4 (-$2480) and add

G-Force 9" IRS Kit $6558

New Total: $19758

After that I still need a full paint job and trim replacement to make the car perfect. Not adding to the fact I need to fix the passenger window, but that’s negligible. So I can maybe get some of that money out of my other 2 cars.... Shit maybe I need a better job. Ah dreams.....

GTO burnout for your time

DISCUSSION (72)

RallyWrench > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 19:56

Mmm. That your car in the pic? Looks like a local field... BMW is looking for a parts guy, they just let a dude go and only have Dave.

S65 > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 20:03

Convert to crank windows, that’s one problem solved. Are you willing to rattlecan it? rust oleum has some nice colors. Is this a 5.7 or a 6.0?

CaptDale - is secretly British > S65
09/13/2016 at 20:09

2006 GTO, 6.0, 6 speed

Hence why I named her Lilith (666)

No I paid too much money to make my car worse

CaptDale - is secretly British > RallyWrench
09/13/2016 at 20:11

You think they would pay better than here? Coast is kinda a huge mess

S65 > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 20:12

But weigh reduction bro, wait is this the spray paint or crank windows? If I were you I’d go with LS7 parts for a high revving NA engine instead of a LSA

RallyWrench > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 20:13

It is, forever and always, but the pay might be better. Even if so I’m not sure it’s worth it though.

CaptDale - is secretly British > RallyWrench
09/13/2016 at 20:19

Yeah, I’d rather be paid less and have a decent job than work there I think.

CaptDale - is secretly British > S65
09/13/2016 at 20:21

Both sir, both. I love electric window where I can roll down both side from my seat and I’ll never rattle can a car I care about.

Well I don’t want high rev na, I want high HP SC. Hence the LSA heads and SC.

S65 > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 20:25

What if you get it wrapped?

Renescent > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 20:33

Take that $12k + proceeds from selling your GTO and put a nice down payment on an SS or CPO CTS-V. Unfortunately, your upgrades are more than your car’s worth :(

CaptDale - is secretly British > Renescent
09/13/2016 at 20:37

They are not more than my car it worth thank you. KBB shows for $17k, but as you know wanted cars with upgrades in them already sell for more. As do most stock GTOs. Plus this would be a car I would not want to get rid of.

Plus personally I very much dislike the 2 new gens of Camaro and the CTS-V is just kinda cool, but not my cup of tea...

CaptDale - is secretly British > S65
09/13/2016 at 20:38

Why not just have real paint?

CaptDale - is secretly British > RallyWrench
09/13/2016 at 20:39

Also not my car (pictured is an 05). But very much could be from how my last set of tires turned out...

BorkBorkBjork > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 21:45

Do ported LS3 heads and a Harrop Hurricane intake!

Kinja'd!!!

Harrop has a bunch of other GTO (Monaro) stuff, their brake packages are fantasstic. Also look at BMR suspension.

DanZman > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/13/2016 at 21:58

$17,000 plus $12,000 will put you very close to a C6 z06...

CaptDale - is secretly British > DanZman
09/14/2016 at 11:21

That is very true. IDK. These are just things I want. I want a super fast GTO. Plus if I get a C6 it would have to be a ZR1.

CaptDale - is secretly British > BorkBorkBjork
09/14/2016 at 11:22

I love the BMR stuff. Would need that to to stiffen the car up. But you cant supercharge the hurricane intake

BorkBorkBjork > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 12:10

What kind of supercharger are you looking at? I have a roots-style positive displacement MP112 on my GTO. I love it, but there are some new centrifugal designs that are very interesting.

I used to be the biggest critic of centrifugal superchargers, since you had to deal with limited low-end power, but the new Procharger i-1 fixes all of that. By adding a CVT to the drive, you get full boost at any RPM and you can program your own boost levels. On top of that, you can use a large air-to-air intercooler that is way more efficient than the air-water one I have. Plus they are way easier to install, and you can use aftermarket intake manifolds (although I would call them and discuss it first, since the aftermarket manifolds may not have ideal flow for positive-pressure applications).

CaptDale - is secretly British > BorkBorkBjork
09/14/2016 at 12:16

I want to put LSA heads and factory LSA supercharger and intake assembly. I am a big proponent of keeping as much as I can with in the GM family.

Party-vi > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 12:21

“I really want to make my GTO faster and more reliable”

“faster”

“more reliable”

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 12:22

I have no familiarity with the Maverick Man Coilover Kit, but I am always very hesitant on about 90% of sub-$1k coilover setups. They’re generally all the exact same poorly valved product coming out of a handful of Taiwanese shops that’re simply painted different colors.

Hell, I’m wary of most coilovers that are under $2k.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Party-vi
09/14/2016 at 12:26

Well the more reliable part was fixing things that I know will break if I add power.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
09/14/2016 at 12:28

Yeah, I haven’t seen anything bad about them and they seem to specialize in “Holden” cars.

Party-vi > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 12:29

So you want to make it faster and keep reliability at the same level :P

crowmolly > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 12:29

Have you priced a real paint job (of good quality) recently?

BeaterGT > DanZman
09/14/2016 at 12:34

Very close to one that’s been beat on!

Snuze: Needs another Swede > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 12:34

Less fancy pants stuff, moar junkyard turbo kit!!!

CaptDale - is secretly British > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/14/2016 at 12:47

But why?

CaptDale - is secretly British > crowmolly
09/14/2016 at 12:48

I know it’s stupid in price, but I like paint so much more than other options.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Party-vi
09/14/2016 at 12:49

Yesish. I want the power to be able to be as reliable as possible. No reason to add HP and break my stock parts and keep breaking replacement stock parts. Build up car then add HP. That how its done.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 13:03

For fun and profit!

AfromanGTO > BorkBorkBjork
09/14/2016 at 13:08

Yes!

CaptDale - is secretly British > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/14/2016 at 13:22

Maybe I should just do a junkyard Duramax.

AfromanGTO > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 13:23

Let’s see I have some of those parts on the list. I have the monster twin with C7 flywheel. You’d like that. I have coilovers too. Mav man coil overs are a good choice, so are Pedders, BC, CX racing, and Megan which are made in the same place. Mav is a good guy and one man operation for his carbon fiber products. I am wanting a DSS two piece drive shaft no 1 piece for me. Why not get 2QWK4U/The Banned One’s axles? It is what a lot of people are using now, but they are pricey. The LSA top end is good for making power, but you will need a cowl hood.

My concerns:

1. No replacement of all bushings?

Kinja'd!!!

2. No Harrop differential cover?

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3. All that power and no CTS-V 6 piston front 4 piston rear brakes.

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All GTOs need new paint jobs... Holden’s paint is meh at best.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 13:23

That would be awesome!

CaptDale - is secretly British > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 13:40

I lumped the bushings and other suspension stuff into my “I know I should put it down cause Afroman will call me out on it, but I am too lazy and don’t care to finish my list list.”

I updated my list for you

Snuze: Needs another Swede > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 13:53

By the way, I actually do think your original build idea seems really nice. It’s good to see someone who thinks about more than just slapping a power adder on there.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/14/2016 at 13:58

Thanks. Yeah I want my car to be able to handle its power, not endanger myself and others on the road.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 14:00

My uncle let me drive his Chevelle once. It’s got a 402 cubic inch small block, probably makes 550HP. The trans has a manual valve body with the shifter still on the column, he’s welded the carrier together in the rear (4.10's), it’s got drum brakes all the way around. It’s basically a redneck deathtrap. A really, really, really fast deathtrap.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/14/2016 at 14:06

Sounds like a fun deathtrap though

DanZman > BeaterGT
09/14/2016 at 14:08

That sounds a bit naïve... Clean 2006's are routinely changing hands for around $32,000

BeaterGT > DanZman
09/14/2016 at 14:49

Just sharing what shows up in my recent searches, not saying the deals and clean cars aren’t out there. But for what OP wants to do, it’d be more of the same project.

they-will-know-my-velocity > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 15:47

Yeah, my 04 has chips in the paint ALL OVER the front of the car. My wreck was the best excuse to get them fixed though. $11K paint job came out pretty good though. >.<

AfromanGTO > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 16:52

You mean Afroman is considered about your safety and well being.

Thank you for updating the list!

You basically want to do this. :)

Kinja'd!!!

AfromanGTO > they-will-know-my-velocity
09/14/2016 at 16:54

I have a clear bra all over mine from the previous owner. It won’t come off except in pieces.... I had the back bumper repainted and insert painted body color. I know I’ll be repainting the front when I get the sap front fascia. I know mine needs a repaint too....

11K for a paint job! It better look like sex!

they-will-know-my-velocity > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 17:03

That’s gonna be a beast. Engine is gonna come last for me. I’m basically framing it around tuning. I’m going to do my exhaust and engine all at once and trailer it to SNL Performance to get it tuned.

I figured I’d handle all the bushings and suspension stuff first. I’ve got wheels and brakes done. Need to decide on some tires and then pay off the credit card to start ordering suspension goodies. The hard parts wi

Stainless Works longtubes headers/CAT delete with custom Y-pipe for QTP electric cutouts. I’ll probably do full 3" exhaust and fit the largest/quietest mufflers I can on it to avoid setting of my GF’s car alarm at 5am every morning. - Alot...I know the fabricator I’m going to use but this mod also gets into engine stuff which is a rabbit hole unto itself.

Engine - I’m not an LS guy. I’ve been wrecking Mustangs since I got my license so until now, I haven’t really done much research. The goal is every day reliability and driveability. I’m not looking to dominate the strip. I’m no going to get into weight reduction to get this pig to a 11 second car. The car is comfortable and I think of it as more of a GT car than a muscle car.

I’m thinking LS6 heads and maybe a valve kit. If I get some cherry used ones I may just throw some new springs in it and call it good. LS6 intake manifold with OTR tube. I may also upgrade to the Mishimoto radiator a this time. I need to do more research on a good cam for this build. Perhaps just stick with the LS6 theme and do stock LS6 camshafts.

AGM battery relocated to the trunk/ ECM relocated to the kickpanel in cabin. Coolant reservoir relocated to passenger side. I’d like to clean up the engine pay so I’m going to see about relocating the coilpacks to the firewall and possibly deleting the PCV system or hiding it better. I’ll also change the rest of the fluid reservoirs for a more clean look.

With all that extra space I’ll probably be tempted to shove a Procharger in there. I probably won’t. But it would be cool.

they-will-know-my-velocity > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 17:04

It does. But thanks to a noninsured asshat at work I need to sand down a couple scratches on the rear quarter and fill them in. But the front end is still gorgeous!

CaptDale - is secretly British > they-will-know-my-velocity
09/14/2016 at 17:14

Yeah, the suspension and safety parts will come first. The car has a hot cam and tune at the moment that will suffice till I can add power.

What beast are you creating. Sounds like a great set up. You’ll find LS is best LS lol. Its funny you’re going LS6 off a which LS?

I definitely want to try to stick with as much factory GM parts as I can engine wise, but I want what GM would have made a LS2 S/C. So LSA top end. should be neat.

CaptDale - is secretly British > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 17:15

Lol, I saw this while at lunch. Yes basically that rear end YES!!

CaptDale - is secretly British > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 17:26

For 11k I better be able to see the stars reflect in my car at night. Are you doing the SAP rear? I don’t really like it. I wouldn’t mind the side mouldings and front facia, but with out the indented grill inserts. I also want the CV8Z wheels.

they-will-know-my-velocity > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 17:47

LS1 so the LS6 parts are bolt on, which is attractive to me. Mine is an ‘04 GTO M6 in Yellow Jacket.

Yeah, I’m trying to apply the Lotus ethos of, “Simplify, then add lightness,” to the build. It has to be simple, intuitive, and make as much or more sense than before. Mechanically speaking. Mine is more of a, “Simplify, then add loudness,” though.

And yeah, I haven’t though of adding the LSA top end. That’s cool idea. Are you gonna do forged rods or anything or would it not make enough boost to need that?

AfromanGTO > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 18:39

Exactly!

No sap rear. I hate the sap grilles, so none of those either. Just the sap front fascia. I want to plastiweld it, so it is better attached to the bumper. I really want a set of HSV GTO side skirts, but I like the SAP side skirts too. I have my stock 18s, and Camaro 19s for my GTO. I have yet to put the 19s on. I am tempted to put a set of 2014-2015 SS sedan wheels on it too, but then I’d have 3 sets of rims. lol

AfromanGTO > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 18:40

Look at his build thread. He has been busting his ass to get it done. Look what he did to the motor.

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthr…

CaptDale - is secretly British > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 19:00

Those skirts are the best I’ve seen. I never thought about doing those for it. Thank god we got better front and rear facias compared to the Holden (yuck). What I really want are the Gen-F wheels in gunmetal

Kinja'd!!!

Shit, now I really need a better job if I want to afford going fast anytime soon.

CaptDale - is secretly British > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 20:20

I have read the thread. Holy shit that intense, but he isn’t running the times he should be for twin turbo. Is he having issues hooking up?

187 R Str Machine Eliminator T.G. 2005 Pontiac GTO Red

et2:11.932 mph2:125.380

Av et:12.4380

av mph:122.2

AfromanGTO > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 20:28

He must not be, and that must be why he put the new rearend in. He even made his kids help out. lol I know he got everything ready in time for the event. I like his trailer. Also most mini-tub kits let you keep the rear seats. It doens’t go in that much. ;)

Kinja'd!!!

AfromanGTO > CaptDale - is secretly British
09/14/2016 at 20:36

Yes, I love those side skirts, but I don’t want replicas. The real ones are urethane like our factory ones, and the replicas are fiberglass....

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I am not alone in not liking the HSV front and rear bumpers on the GTO. Why does it have a bar in the middle? Those VF HSV rims are over 5 grand to have shipped here. I like my factory ones on the SS.

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If the hubs were the same size, I would have bolted them on the GTO to take pics. It’s not like it would take me long to swap wheels. lol

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CaptDale - is secretly British > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 20:38

The times I quoted for him are from the event. That’s why i said he may not be hooking properly. For TT he isn’t hitting good mph. I just didn’t think the protrusion from the tub would allow the seats. Glad to know they do. Yeah it must be nice to have a trailer to tow your car and its trailer enclosed.

CaptDale - is secretly British > AfromanGTO
09/14/2016 at 20:40

Factory is always the way to go. Looks like I will need to go to Austrailia and smuggle back some goodies for our cars. And steal the Coupe 60 prototype before Holden gets shut down. Anything else you need ;)